31. October 2021, at 16:15 pm
https://www.arte.tv/de/videos/102298-000-A/kunst-kultur-kippa/
5. October at WDR 3 Panel discussion with Prof. Dr. Micha Brumlik, Rita Kersting (Ludwig Museum Cologne), Kay Heymer (Museum Kunstpalast Düsseldorf), moderated by Dr. Michael Köhler at Wallraf – Richartz Museum Cologne
https://www1.wdr.de/radio/wdr3/programm/sendungen/wdr3-forum/kunst-und-erinnerung-100.html